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Old 08-02-2002, 04:59 PM
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There was a thread some months ago about tightening the cross braces under the car. I was getting noticably more shake when going over bumps, so I asked the dealer to tighten things up. The car is now MUCH improved. The service invoice just said "tighten suspension" but whatever they did helped a lot.
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Old 08-02-2002, 09:30 PM
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I think they made a change in early December on how these braces are attached. I'm going to compare mine with the older birds on Thunder on 66 to see if there is a difference. Mine seems to still be tight.

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Old 08-02-2002, 09:48 PM
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Looking forward to your comparison. For the record though, my car was built at the end of April.
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Old 08-08-2002, 10:46 PM
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Sauernote,
Any chance you can find out from your dealership what exactly they did to help decrease the shake? I have noticed an increase in 'cowl shake' and mentioned it to my service advisor, but he had no idea what to do to combat the problem.
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Old 08-09-2002, 12:39 AM
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took my bird for an oil change and when they put it on the rack i showed them where the cross brace was and where the 12 bolts were they didnt even know it. but the tec wasnt there either so we will see next week when i take it in if they know


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Old 08-09-2002, 07:51 AM
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this is easy to do in your home garage. drive your car up onto some ramps to get enough room to work under the car and keep the suspension loaded with the weight of the car. there are 12 bolts on the two X-members under the front end and middle of the car. tighten them to 46 foot-pounds. thats it! it will make a difference and NOTHING is done to the cars suspension. my car developed a little bit of annoying shake when you hit a bump at about 3000 miles. this cleared it up, hope this helps
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Old 08-09-2002, 07:55 AM
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The cowl shake can be attributed to the X-braces not being tight enough. There are several of these underneath the car to help stiffen the suspension. These braces should be torqued at 46ft/lbs of torque. A big word of caution would be that if anyone plans to do this themself they need to do it on level ground. If anyone has any questions you can e-mail me at:
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Old 08-09-2002, 07:56 AM
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by the way, they are 13mm bolt heads and the two in the front are covered by a dirt cover wich must be loosened and pulled down to get to them. this whole operation took me about 20 minutes including looking around at the neat suspension components of the t-bird
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Old 08-09-2002, 08:00 AM
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Thanks for the info on the x-braces. I am going to check mine this weekend, as I do experience some cowl shake. I will let you all know how it works out.

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Old 08-09-2002, 01:43 PM
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I first reported on these x braces about 6 months ago. One thing I did notice was at first the bolts seemed tight. But on one bolt I pulled on the ratchet a little harder and the bolt popped loose like it had Loctite on the threads. I was then able to tighten the bolt about an extra 3/4 of a turn. So I went back and rechecked them all. Everyone of them popped loose and were tightened anywhere from 3/4 to 1 1/2 turns. The factory spec on the bolts is 46 ft. lbs.

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Old 08-09-2002, 02:00 PM
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Thanks all for the feedback.
I remember your posting some months back, Lon. I went out to tighten the braces but found that they all seemed tight. (Didn't know the torque spec at that time)
I'll try it again and see if I have the same condition.
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Old 08-27-2002, 11:31 AM
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Do you realize that you broke the seal of the lock-tite? Have you thought about taking the screws out, applying lock-tite, and re-installing them? (one at a time, of course)

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I first reported on these x braces about 6 months ago. One thing I did notice was at first the bolts seemed tight. But on one bolt I pulled on the ratchet a little harder and the bolt popped loose like it had Loctite on the threads. I was then able to tighten the bolt about an extra 3/4 of a turn. So I went back and rechecked them all. Everyone of them popped loose and were tightened anywhere from 3/4 to 1 1/2 turns. The factory spec on the bolts is 46 ft. lbs.

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Old 08-27-2002, 11:40 AM
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My dealer can't find the service recommendation for the bolts on the xBraces and doesn't want to touch them without "Ford" information.

Where (exactly) did you find this???
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Old 08-27-2002, 11:41 AM
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Yes I did. The first time I just tried and found bolts were under torqued. Drove & verified that it did indeed help the cowl shake. The following weekend I removed the bolts one at a time & cleaned the threads on both the bolt & the female threads. Applied Loctite primer and then installed he bolts with Locktite. One at a time of course. Cowl shake has stayed greatly reduced ever since.

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Old 09-24-2002, 09:48 AM
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Lon - you say you cleaned the female threads (also). How did you do that? I wouldn't want to push dirt further into the hole.

Also - did you have any difficulty getting any of the bolts back into their holes. (Yes - I understand that you did one at a time.)

I would hate to remove one only to realize that I can't get it back in (because of a shift in the brace after releasing the bolt). That could be a service nightmare.
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