Clear film for under top

[leisha]

I have checked car sequence #15535, Vin 15422 delivered in Canada and there was no film in the trunk in the cardboard roll, as previously reported in another thread.
Lets keep track to find out at what point Ford started addressing the problem.

Still waiting for my Blue Blue full.

[Gobird]

http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/mad.gif Ford is not addressing this problem the way they should. This film thing is a quick fix only. They need to call back ALL 02's to have the chrome strip installed as per the fix on the 03's. We, all 25,000 of us, should not be satisfied till they do it this way. http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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[02birdman]

Can we start a campain of emails or letters to someone at Ford? I also feel the chrome strip should be retro fitted by the dealer under a recall program. Anyone got the proper email address or regular mail address to the right person at Ford? Seems someone started this thread sometime ago, now it's getting warm out the rest of us are starting to take the tops off and better understand what you guys were talking about .

[Gobird]

http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif 02birdman, Yes I started this a while back. If this is the only problem Ford has with the 02's I would think they could take care of it. We were told that the Ford engineers were working on this but if this is their solution then I an not biting. This is a quick fix and that is all. Hope someone can provide an address or something we can sent to Ford on this problem. I think we need the chrome strip that is being put on the 03's to take care of the problem. And at their expense. No ours. http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/eek.gif

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[DavidA]

Here's the thread started earlier on this subject. In the middle of it is a copy of the TSB I got from my service department. http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000904.html

[leisha]

Please list the vin of the first car we find who recieved the film in the trunk with the car. This way we know when Ford started addressing the problem.
My service guy told me he looked for it in the 15535 sequence car and did not find it.
Did any other cars with a sequence # earlier have it?
My service guy told me some Ford Pick up trucks come with a similar film to install around the back of the wheel wells.
We Canadians say 'Duck tape forever' perhalps Ford says 3M forever, probably Ford has shares in 3M!
The way it looks my 2002 will have a 24999 sequence #!!! My dealer tells me different stories each time I see him. Mine was supposed to be next delivered, the same car as I ordered arrived yesterday , sequence # above. He now tells me the next will be a Black then my Blue Bird!

[Bird02]

I picked up my car last Friday, and found
the quick fix kit in the trunk.
VIN--114987. I think someone else mentioned
finding the kit in their trunk also. We
are not using the kit. Will wait till they
come out with a permanent fix.

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'95 Miata M Edition
'95 Miata Red/Tan

[oldcarnut38]

I checked my trunk and found the plastic strip there--#1133700--white,red/black full package interior--I restore 55-57 birds as a hobby and have used a similar piece many times to keep the top insulation from indenting the painton rear deck. It is somewhat affective,but definatly not a solution.

[oldcarnut38]

woops-one too many 0's in the number. should be 113370

[LON O'CONNELL]

Ford cannot do a Recall of this matter as recalls are for Safety Related concerns. But they can do a Owner Notification Program. If each and everyone of us has a dealer file an EDSR (Electronic Dealer Service Report)on our VIN and have the dealer include in the report that the only acceptable fix would be the 03 stainless steel or chrome plate we would then have 25,000 reports laying on the desks of the people who can do something about it. Be sure to ask the dealer to give you a copy of the report so you can be sure it went thru the way you asked it to be sent.

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[JimmyFitz]

I think Ford and their dealers should offer to make this right for us. I, like many others, paid over MSRP for this car just to make sure that I got one. I don't regret my purchase, but it irks me that Ford created this atmosphere and then allowed it to go anywhere it could. The least they could do is fix the irritations for us at no charge. After all, it is their car and their reputation.

[BornAgain]

Would a chrome strip that is supposely being put on the '03 solve the problem(?) for the '02? Would the current hardtop for the '02 fit this strip? It seems to me that if you put a strip on the '02, that it would raise the hardtop and the two clamps at the back would not be securely locked. Just some thoughts, no aurgement.

[RTBRD]

leisha,

TBirdMarty's car was the first I heard of having it, his sequence is 14280, built week of 3/25.

[whiskeyman]

My Blue on Blue Premium had the same tape for the deck in the trunk.

Vin 1FAHP60A32Y113896
Build Sequence 4746
Final assembly approx. 7:30 am on 3/22/02
Rec. & picked up at the dealer on 3/26/02

Like the majority of others, I do not plan to use this product to take care of the rub problem on the rear deck from the hard top.

I will support any effort to have the chrome trim piece installed in a "timely manor" for all of the 2002 Birds at no cost to the owner.

Mike

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[RTBRD]

whiskeyman,

Please check your rotation number again, I have it as 4030, which means your's was the 13990th built. Rotation number 4746 goes with vin 115155.

[K6RU]

1FAHP60A12Y113878 seen by RedBird on 3/21 going down line had the cardboard enclosed film. I am not using it and won't.

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[whiskeyman]

RTBRD

If my build sequence number was not 4746,
try 4647.


Thanks,

Mike

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[RTBRD]

whiskeyman,

Really believe it is 4030, both the numbers you give are 114700 to 115100 range of vins.

[whiskeyman]

RTBRD

Please check your response to me on 4/1/02 under chrome strip for hard top topic.

At that time I posted my vin 13896 and build sequence no. 4746.

Your response was: That rotation makes you the 14706th. built.


Mike

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[RTBRD]

Mike,

That sequence # came from the number you supplied me. When I was checking rotation #s today I saw that your's is listed as 4030 in a seperate list that I have. Did the number you gave me come from the vin sticker on your car? If so, that means my other list is incorrect.

Joe

[whiskeyman]

RTBRD

I'm currently at my office. I did bring the paper work in from my car and checked the vin
it is 1FAHP60A32Y113896. The build sequence number was given to my wife and I when we toured Wixom on 3/21/02 to watch our Bird being built. That number is 4746. Dave, our tour guide, mailed to us a number of stickers used during the assembly of our car. Those stickers are home and I am sure the build sequence sticker is one of them. I'll double check tonight but I'm sure the 4746 is correct.


Thanks

Mike


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[TbirdMarty]

I like the others would like the chrome strip. I'm sure the thickness of this strip could be thin enough where it would not interfere with the seal/fit of the top. I would be curious to know how thick the strip is that is being installed on the 03's. I am also sure that when a part number comes available for this strip that many of us will be retrofitting it to our cars, that is if Ford does not make this solution available to us 02 owners.

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[Gobird]

http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/biggrin.gif TbirdMarty, I'm sure the chrome strip is only 1/16 to 3/32 thick so don't see any problem with the seal. As far as buying it I would say Ford should provide it for us at no cost because this is a defect in the 02's and they should take care of it. Just my opinion but I think a lot of other people feel the same way.

I guess this has become a pet peeve with me but the Bird is all but perfect except for this.

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[George]

I agree that Ford should provide aproper fix for this problem. It goes back to the original small birds. I had the same issue with my '56.
Possibly a poll with votes from our membership, and then this poll emailed out to Ford, as opposed to individuals sending in notes to Ford.

[Gobird]

George, check out polls on the beginning of the board. We already have one going. so Vote.

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[leisha]

I contacted customer rep in Canada to ask why US cars had the film in the trunk and it seems like the Canadian cars don't, especially since Canadian cars should have the top on for longer periods than the Southern US ones.
The answer seems to be that the film is a temporary 'fix'. Ford of Canada will not commit but have stated that they are concered about the problem and are investigating a permenant fix. I asked about the Stainless / chrome strip. He could not say if this would be the fix, he did say that all 2500 Canadian car owners would be notified. The ones which were shipped to the US may stay in limbo though!

[Tbird eh]

leisha: My dealer has a blue/ blue tbird coming in today or tomorrow available at MSRP. Hamilton is only 3 & a half hours from you email me if you are interested.

Triple black 3 of 5 ....7854

[TexasTBird]

Whom should I ask at the dealership to file the EDSR, all of the sales people I mentioned it to didnt now what an EDSR was. In otherwords, who (at what position) would know what it is and how to file it?

[DavidA]

Talk to your service rep or service manager -- they are the ones that send in the reports.

[fortbirds]

I took delivery of my car on 12/20/01 and my dealer and I installed the hard top at that time.The vehicle was driven 328 miles and the top was removed in April.After the top came off the area under the top was found scratched and scufed.My dealer was made aware of the problem and he sent an electronic message to FMC.He also told me to call customer svc.and register a complaint.
FMC needs to come up with a permenent solution now!!!

[BrianL]

Please have your dealer's service manager file a EDSR and call customer service to register your request for a "permanent" fix. Upon showing my dealer's service manager the paint scuffing today, he offered the film part and a buff job to repair the marked up paint. Called the customer service 800 # as well. I requested a fix at Ford's expense "like a retrofit of the part being installed on the 2003's". Ford will probably only spend this kind of money if there are significant complaints from the customer base.