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Gobird
03-28-2002, 02:31 PM
http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/biggrin.gif OK, Here is a post for all the GOOD dealers out there. I'm sure there are a lot of them.

Mine was Beasley Ford In York Pa. Sold at MSRP and took care of us and did Care about the sale and the car when it came in. My salesman was Lonnie E. Hengst, a very nice guy to deal with.

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02 T-Bird 9293
69 Vette
73 MGB
97 F-150 4x4
2-Seadoo Jet Skies
a dog a cat and a couple hundred fish in my pond

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Chief
03-28-2002, 02:49 PM
Should we make a list of the "Good" dealers?

Gobird
03-28-2002, 02:54 PM
Chief, think you missed something, this is the good dealer thread.

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02 T-Bird 9293
69 Vette
73 MGB
97 F-150 4x4
2-Seadoo Jet Skies
a dog a cat and a couple hundred fish in my pond

RTBRD_aka_jodrod
03-28-2002, 03:00 PM
Santa Fe Ford in Alachua, FL. They did charge over MSRP but were very friendly and helpful. I would go back to them again.

It will be interesting to see if T02BIRD feels the same, he also purchased his car there.

Also, Autoway Ford in St. Pete, FL. Although I did not get the Bird there (all spoken for by the time I ordered) I have purchased three Mustangs GTs from them and would have the Bird.

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Mark501
03-28-2002, 03:22 PM
Ryburn Motor Company Monticello,Arkansas.
From day one when I ordered my car, they were straight forward on the deal, which was MSRP, there were no signed contracts, just verbal agreements which they lived up to 100%. I have done business with them for years because of this way of business. I can't say that I would do that with any dealership.

Early on, I had a power control module go out my vehicle. They handled it in record time, giving my vehicle priority. The entire service staff was extremely courteous and attentive to my suggestions, which arose from discussions on this board.

Exceptional dealer.

Mark

chryslertcnut
03-28-2002, 03:23 PM
Don Davis Ford (Don Davis Auto Group) has been great to work with. We have actually only been in contact with Sales, but they have been fine. We got the car at MSRP with no hassle. They are in Arlington, TX near the Ballpark in Arlington.
We later bought a used Ranger to replace my '64 Ranchero (it got in an aurgument with a full size Chevy, and lost) from our salesman and he did a fantastic job of getting me into a vehicle for the bucks I was willing to spend. (Thanks Bruce!!) I would recommend them to anyone (including friends).
I have no experience with the service facility there yet and really hope I never have to find out. I plan to get a car built on a Wednesday morning that falls nowhere near a holiday.
George
Blue/White/full Blue Premium
North Richland Hills, TX

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DavidA
03-28-2002, 04:00 PM
Jackie Jones FOrd, Cleveland GA -- I ordered the car over the phone on Jan 8th 2001 after being on the waiting list for a year. Handshake deal at MSRP. Although I was 3 of 6, the car came in Oct.15 as number 1 and they stuck to the deal as agreed. They are a standup dealership that I have done, and will continue to do business with.

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#1429 Black Premium with Full Red Interior.

pbocciardi
03-28-2002, 04:15 PM
Jack Kain Ford in Versailles, Kentucky, treated me extremely well. Although I live in California, they were very responsive to my queries, signed me up for the Thunderbird Collection program WITHOUT MY ASKING, never wavered on their price quote, threw in the T-Bird floor mats with the price of the car, and actually moved me up from #2 to #1 in their allocation when circumstances dictated that. Obviously I am not going to be able to use them for service(!), but they have even kept in touch with me since I bought the car and sent me a calendar with a photo of me picking up my 'Bird. Gosh, what more could I ask for? http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

Hobobob
03-28-2002, 04:18 PM
Gotta put in a good word for Tom Denchel Ford in Sunnyside and Prosser, Washington. I bought my first new car from a dealer in 1947 and have been buying new vhichles every since. This dealer has to be the best one I have ever dealt with. He saved me all the promo information and books that the dealer gets, and GAVE them to me. My son and I each signed up for a 2002 bird in April of 1999. I have my blue/white all premium and he now has his red , all premium. The whole crew at Tom Denchel Ford has been great!

RTBRD_aka_jodrod
03-28-2002, 04:27 PM
Hobobob,

I have your son's car listed, when did he receive it?

jawill2000
03-28-2002, 06:27 PM
Got to respond on this one. Pete's Ford Great Barrington Massachusetts unbelieveable. My salesman Chin Lee delivered the latest brochure to my house 37 miles away at 8:00 PM, on his own time. They charged MSRP and kept me informed every step of the wait, delivered the car in super immaculate condition with only 2 miles on the odometer. I can't say enough or recommend them highly enough, the very best car buying experience I've had in 48 years.

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Jim Williams
red/red/std blk premium #2 of 2 VIN 1FAHP60A62Y111592
Mass. tag JWBIRD

kransom
03-28-2002, 06:31 PM
Another Good Dealer is Folsom Lake Ford in Folsom, CA. Did charge over msrp but what the heck, they delivered the car to my door. Bought it off of the showroom floor on Feb 27. Got a White bird with black top and black interior. VIN# 1FAHP60A42Y110764. Have had nothing but good vibes from Folsom Lake in last 10 years.

LON O'CONNELL
03-28-2002, 07:09 PM
John Chandler Ford in Amarillo, Tx. Originally had a handshake deal February, 99 for MSRP plus $7,000. December, 00 General Manager said we do not do business this way and said mine and the rest of their allocation would be sold for MSRP as they had never sold a car for more that MSRP and were not going to start now. Salesman Terry Bixler is one of the best auto salesmen I have ever met. Service Department is pretty good and they help me a little more as I used to be a Service Advisor there. Departure from there employment was not real pretty so there is a little friction in that respect but seems to be healing up slowly but surely.
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2002 T-Bird yellow/yellow premium
1999 F150 SC 4x4 Off Road
1998 Taurus SE Sport 24V

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LON O'CONNELL
03-28-2002, 07:15 PM
Ron Clark Ford outskirts of town (Amarillo, Tx.). Did not buy car there but you really get the small town dealer treatment there. Randy Clark Owner/General Manager. Great guy. Really takes care of there customers.
Only reason I did not buy car there was because I was working for John Chandler Ford at the time I put deposit down.

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Yellow/Yellow Prem. 02 Bird w/full accent
1999 F150 Super Cab 4x4 Off Road
1998 Taurus SE Sport 24V

greyfox11
03-28-2002, 08:07 PM
This is a really nice thread.
Frontier Ford in Santa Clara , Ca delivered my bird. The Director of fleet sales Bill Light handled the transaction. No hassle, "whatever you want" attitide. This is a BIG dealership, 02 allocation of 50. Bill handled it as if the allocation was 1.

Now for the service and parts department, they aren't on the same page. If I had the time, and interest, I could make both of them rich. Very typical Ford Focus service. Common guys, I bought your flagship product, understand and appreciate that.

In 95 I bought a Lincoln Mark V111, it was a lot worse than this. Reminded me of why one has gotta love American made to put up with the crap.

My 2 cents worth, again.

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mwhit
03-28-2002, 10:05 PM
My dealer, Schlenker Motors in Hamburg, PA salesman name Mike Kramer super guy. I got mine for $200 under sticker, as I had our signed agreement before the $200.00 price increase. They handled everything to my satisfaction. I was #2 of 3. The first car was ordered from Keller Bros. Ford in Schaefferstown PA on 1/29/01 where I ordered an Escape and the T-bird at the same time. No price available on the T-bird at that time, they did not know what they were going to charge for the Thunderbirds. When the Escape arrived 4/25/01, I wanted to know if they would sell the Thunderbird at sticker. I told them I found another dealer that would sell at sticker. Their answer was no to sticker, I said use my $1000 deposit as payment on the Escape. This all happened at 5:30 PM, I was at Schlenker's at 7:00 PM to place my order at sticker. I am done with Keller Bros., even thought they are only about 4 miles from my home.

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(2)Turbo Coupes
Yellow 2002 11528 in the shed

greenwr
03-28-2002, 11:50 PM
I was on the list at Ponca City, Bowker Ford. I was working with Cory Bowker, President of the company. I was # 3 on his list when he got the allocation, he only had two to sell. He contacted other dealers until he found one that would sell to me at MSRP. That was Panhandle Motors in Beaver OK. Bill Russell (owner)and I made the deal over the phone and by e-mail in November of 2000. I did not meet him until June when I went out to meet and take him to lunch. He has called and asked about the car two or three times since I picked up in November of 2001.
When Cory Bowker located a new dealer for me, he told me that he wanted to be the service dealer, he has been great.
So I think I have been lucky enough to have two great dealers.

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Bill's Red and White #4359
Tag # 15AGAIN

RTBRD_aka_jodrod
03-29-2002, 05:04 AM
kransom,

Good luck with your new baby. Yours was the 10314th built. BTW, is it a premium or deluxe and is the interior accent or standard?

kransom
03-29-2002, 12:04 PM
RTBRD_aka_jodrod:

This is, I believe, a premium with standard interior. It has traction control. I am not sure what the real difference is.

RTBRD_aka_jodrod
03-29-2002, 12:07 PM
kransom,

Does it have chome 7 spoke (premium) or silver painted 21 spoke wheels (deluxe)? The traction control is an option on the deluxe.

Norman
03-29-2002, 12:14 PM
Lums Ford / Lincoln / Mercury in Albemarle, North Carolina. Great dealer. Had my Neiman car delivered there and recently took delivery on my blue car. Lums gave both my cars extra attention, kept them away from lookers, and prepped them with extra attention. Of course the Neiman car was ordered from the Neiman phone line back in Sept. of 2000; but Lums sold me the blue car at MSRP.
No matter how many cars I buy there; the story is always the same. Fantastic service and detail to my satisfaction. I think this dealer could be used as the supreme example for the Blue Oval Certification.

HeelBird
03-29-2002, 12:29 PM
Add mine---Evans Ford of Kinston, NC 252-522-3673. I've dealt with all of the sales staff there over the years and they've always treated me really well.

I actually showed Amadeus to a prospective order customer this morning for one of their salespeople. Immediate sale!! Customer was disappointed that he cannot order a Thunderbird Blue one, but was eager to get on the road with his own auto---even turned down my offer to let him take Amadeus for a spin around the parking lot here at the mall.

T02 Bird
03-29-2002, 04:56 PM
As RTBRD said earlier, I purchased from Santa Fe Ford in Alachua, FL. I dealt with Tom Folske, the internet salesman there. He was totally awesome to deal with. I became somewhat of a celebrity at the dealership, and was treated as such when I finally went to pick up my new baby on February 7, 2002! They even stored my baby in it's own building away from the general public 'til I was able to pick her up. As many of you know, I had previously ordered a car from World Ford Kendall, Sean Pearson was the LIAR salesman I dealt with. As soon as I realized the dealership was not going to honor our MSRP deal in November 2001, I had to scramble to find another dealership that would sell at MSRP. Although I was not sucessful in doing so, I was satisfied with $1,700 over along with being the next bird to go into production for the dealership. I ordered my car on November 17, 2001, it rolled off the line on January 18, 2002, and as I said earlier, I picked her up on February 7. I'm planning on using Sawgrass Ford as my servicing dealership, but the jury is still out on that. Thus far I haven't had to use the dealership other than buying a third key.

KB

thenewtbird2
03-29-2002, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by HeelBird:
Add mine---Evans Ford of Kinston, NC 252-522-3673. I've dealt with all of the sales staff there over the years and they've always treated me really well.

I actually showed Amadeus to a prospective order customer this morning for one of their salespeople. Immediate sale!! Customer was disappointed that he cannot order a Thunderbird Blue one, ....

puzzled about why customer could not order a blue one??? orders on the 02 don't close until this summer - plenty of time to get a blue one ordered.

yellowwing1
03-29-2002, 07:56 PM
My dealer has to be in this group.
Manderbach Ford in Reading and my saleswoman is Tanya Moyer. Every one in this dealership got involved when they knew we had a problem or two with the car. Turning out to be a very caring dealership.

HeelBird
03-29-2002, 08:24 PM
Maybe I should have been more clear---he can't order an '02 from our dealer since their allocation of 3 has already been delivered. He was intrigued by the tale of a possible supercharger, and said he'd definitely want one with the "squirrel cage" if it were available.

Erict
03-29-2002, 09:33 PM
Montmorency Ford in Brossard Quebec, Canada (south of Montreal)

Excellent service, assisted in the manage the wait period.

Have sent me nany little perks to compensate for the absense of a "Ford Collection" program in Canada.

Great sales team, great service team.

Tommy Tbird Blue
03-30-2002, 03:54 AM
Ron Bortnick Ford. Charged over MSRP -- but less than most of the dealers in this area. Grady Buckmaster is a really great guy. The dealership team is wonderful and will probably go there for all service.


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Tommy TBird Blue
Blue/Full Blue/White Top
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kransom
04-01-2002, 12:06 PM
RTBRD_aka_jodrod:

It has the chome 7 spoke (premium) wheels which I really like. This bird is so rock steady on the road, it is really fun to drive.

c5hardtop
04-01-2002, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by HeelBird:
Add mine---Evans Ford of Kinston, NC 252-522-3673. I've dealt with all of the sales staff there over the years and they've always treated me really well.

I actually showed Amadeus to a prospective order customer this morning for one of their salespeople. Immediate sale!! Customer was disappointed that he cannot order a Thunderbird Blue one, but was eager to get on the road with his own auto---even turned down my offer to let him take Amadeus for a spin around the parking lot here at the mall.

Small world, it was my parents that you showed the car to. They appricated it by the way. They are ordering a Black with Blue interior. Nice cars, but I have a faster taste.

I work in Kinston by the way.

Ryan


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Gobird
04-01-2002, 04:25 PM
http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/confused.gif c5hardtop, Did they order an 03, just wondering what is the black with a blue inter. Not available in the 02's

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02 T-Bird 9293
69 Vette
73 MGB
97 F-150 4x4
2-Seadoo Jet Skies
a dog a cat and a couple hundred fish in my pond

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c5hardtop
04-01-2002, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Gobird:
http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/confused.gif c5hardtop, Did they order an 03, just wondering what is the black with a blue inter. Not available in the 02's



2003

First, nothing goes through until the acutal time the dealer puts the order in the system. If its like whay GM does, it will be another month or two before there systems allow orders for 03s. They are on dealer list
with those preferences, Black Exterior and the Blue/black interior. The dealer told them they could order it that way. I myself know little about the new T-birds so maybe the dealer was mistaken. But in other brands you usually can, altough its usually not listed as available, you can order any interior color with any exterior color.... believe me I actually know people who have Yellow Corvettes with red interiors.

They were also claiming that a Supercharged version (which they wanted) would be available and they base model would increase to 280hp. I'm not sure if my father was BSing me on that part b/c I was critizing it for being slow... thats why I was visiting the forum to see if that was correct.

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Gobird
04-01-2002, 05:20 PM
From what you said I though you meant they ordered a Black ext. w/t Blue int. you can get a Blue Ext. with a Black int. And yes they are offering a supercharger for the 03's and that is pretty close as far as HP.

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02 T-Bird 9293
69 Vette
73 MGB
97 F-150 4x4
2-Seadoo Jet Skies
a dog a cat and a couple hundred fish in my pond

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c5hardtop
04-02-2002, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Gobird:
From what you said I though you meant they ordered a Black ext. w/t Blue int. you can get a Blue Ext. with a Black int. And yes they are offering a supercharger for the 03's and that is pretty close as far as HP.



Thats what I meant, they said it could be ordered, Black EXTERIOR and a Blue and Black INTERIOR.

Gobird
04-02-2002, 01:34 PM
http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/frown.gif Can't be an 02 must be an 03. This combo is Not an 02 option.

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02 T-Bird 9293
69 Vette
73 MGB
97 F-150 4x4
2-Seadoo Jet Skies
a dog a cat and a couple hundred fish in my pond

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c5hardtop
04-02-2002, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Gobird:
http://www.fordthunderbirdforum.com/ubb/frown.gif Can't be an 02 must be an 03. This combo is Not an 02 option.



Yes..., I already said it was an 03 in the previous post. On most makes even though interior color choices are listed as only being available with certain exterior colors, you can actually order any interior with any exterior.

thenewtbird2
04-02-2002, 03:43 PM
c5hardtop: Thanks for the heads up on another possible change for the 2003.

Deviating from the standards offered hasn't been the case with the 2002 Thunderbird that we know of. Ford has seemed adamant in sticking with the original plans for the colors. There have been no reports of anyone being able to change the standard color combos on their orders but there have been changes made after the cars have arrived at the dealers & aftermarket.

As for the 2003, nothing official has leaked out to us about the interiors for next year other than that white inserts may be offered. We're not even sure of the colors that will be offered for the interiors for 03.

You're the first to say that a dealer is willing to put a black & blue interior with a black car for 03. It's reports like that that get us searching for more info. The only real word we've heard is that the dealers won't be able to start placing orders with Ford for the cars until sometime in May. The rest have been unofficial "rumors"

There were some dealers in 2000 that started receiving the info on the 2002 colors in October, 2000 - 3 months before the dealers were allowed to place orders for the cars so it's quite possible for some dealers to already have the info now for the 2003.



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c5hardtop
04-02-2002, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by ***********2:
c5hardtop: Thanks for the heads up on another possible change for the 2003.

Deviating from the standards offered hasn't been the case with the 2002 Thunderbird that we know of. Ford has seemed adamant in sticking with the original plans for the colors. There have been no reports of anyone being able to change the standard color combos on their orders but there have been changes made after the cars have arrived at the dealers & aftermarket.

As for the 2003, nothing official has leaked out to us about the interiors for next year other than that white inserts may be offered. We're not even sure of the colors that will be offered for the interiors for 03.

You're the first to say that a dealer is willing to put a black & blue interior with a black car for 03. It's reports like that that get us searching for more info. The only real word we've heard is that the dealers won't be able to start placing orders with Ford for the cars until sometime in May. The rest have been unofficial "rumors"

There were some dealers in 2000 that started receiving the info on the 2002 colors in October, 2000 - 3 months before the dealers were allowed to place orders for the cars so it's quite possible for some dealers to already have the info now for the 2003.



Yeah... I'm not claiming to have inside information or anything, that is just want they wanted and the dealer thought they could order it that way. It is a realitively small dealer (had 3 Tbird allocations last year), so there not Tbird experts or anything. I just wanted to clarify that on most domestic brands, you see on websites and brochures that there are only certain interior choices with each exterior color. But thats not really the case, any interior can be order with any exterior on most domestic brands, weither its the same with Tbird or not I don't know, but its unlikely a dealer will know untill they try to order one, and its not worth the risk to dealer to order a weird color combo for stock. So you don't really know until you input the order that way and see if it gets accepted or rejected.

greenwr
04-02-2002, 11:58 PM
After my experience today I had to say more about my dealer. I purchased from Panhandle Motors (owner Bill Russell). I called the customer service last night to see if they could help my service dealer find a part. The passager side drip rail (rain gutter) has been broken and Bowker Ford in Ponca City tried to get a new one. I have a performance white top, they ordered white, got a whisper white, ford tolf them to order by vehicle color, you are right they got a red one. Their sources in Ford told them that no performance white tops had been made, so that color was not available. I gave all this to customer service, Bill Russell called this morning to see what the problem was, so I explained. He said he would get on it and let me know. This afternoon he called and gave me the part number for the correct color. I called the parts department in Ponca City and they ordered the drip rail for me. Again I think I have been able to deal with two great dealers!!!

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Tag # 15AGAIN

CannedWolf
04-04-2002, 10:41 PM
Shamrock Ford in Pleasanton, CA was FANTASTIC. I'm relatively young and all the dealerships in Seattle treated me poorly because I don't look like I could afford a Gremlin - much less a Bird. I was in CA on business and stopped in to test drive the bird they had (I was jonesing). I ended up buying one from them. Not only were they amazing to work with, the car was about 6k less than what the guys in Seattle would give it to me for.

HUGE recommendation from me. Very pleased (and the drive home was fantastic!)

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Steve W
VIN-1FAHP60A62Y110376

SugarDaddy
04-05-2002, 01:33 AM
CannedWolf,

BIG DITTO on Shamrock Ford in Pleasanton, CA. They treated us very well! We saw the T- Bird for the first time on Saturday, January 5, 2002, when we stopped by the dealership on the way to the 1st Raiders-Jets game. Our salesman, Marques, met us out front and showed us the black T-Bird on the showroom floor. Someone else had canceled their order. We had never seen or sat in a 2002 T-Bird in-person before. We made a fair offer then, which was turned down by the Big Weekend Manager. The Sales Manager, Ralph, fought to give us the best deal possible and asked us several times to stop by the next weekend when we came up for the Raiders-Jets playoff game. The next weekend we stopped by the dealership to see and test-drive the T-bird. That was all she wrote! We decided that we had to have our ?Raiders? T-Bird. Kim called Marques back on Jan. 14 and closed the deal over the phone. Marques worked with us on the sale by driving 180 miles down to Fresno on Jan. 15 to pick up Kim and bring her back up to the dealership so she could drive the T-Bird back home that afternoon. She loved every second of the drive home with other drivers slowing and looking at the T-Bird.


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Gerry & Kim's
Triple Black Premium
#6831

K6RU
04-07-2002, 12:00 PM
Carlsbad: Ken Grody Ford

"Ski" Wisniewski, Jr. Fleet and Sales Manager.

Did a great job for me including a follow-up call a day later to see if all was OK.


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Chuck

c5hardtop
04-15-2002, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by ***********2:
Deviating from the standards offered hasn't been the case with the 2002 Thunderbird that we know of. Ford has seemed adamant in sticking with the original plans for the colors. There have been no reports of anyone being able to change the standard color combos on their orders but there have been changes made after the cars have arrived at the dealers & aftermarket.

As for the 2003, nothing official has leaked out to us about the interiors for next year other than that white inserts may be offered. We're not even sure of the colors that will be offered for the interiors for 03.

You're the first to say that a dealer is willing to put a black & blue interior with a black car for 03. It's reports like that that get us searching for more info. The only real word we've heard is that the dealers won't be able to start placing orders with Ford for the cars until sometime in May. The rest have been unofficial "rumors"

There were some dealers in 2000 that started receiving the info on the 2002 colors in October, 2000 - 3 months before the dealers were allowed to place orders for the cars so it's quite possible for some dealers to already have the info now for the 2003.



Concerning the blue interior with Black exterior, I asked my parents and they said according the 03 Dealers ordering guide for the Thunderbird, it could be ordered that way. Thats were they said the info came from.

TbirdMarty
04-19-2002, 02:41 PM
I have to add my dealer to this list. It is Gene Evans Ford in Union City, Ga. These guys have stood by everything they have promised from day one. I got my Bird at MSRP, got registered for the "Manage the Wait" fiasco, and these guys have even given me the Michael Lamm book and one of their dealer Thunderbird promotional books. I have never done business with them before but I will buy all my Ford products from them from now on. They are a big volume dealer but I was treated very special. I was even allowed to talk to the owner himself to relay my experiences with his dealership. We have a small time Chevy dealer here in Carrollton and I was told by their manager that under no circumstances would I be allowed to talk with the owner to relay some concerns I had about the treatment I received at his dealership. (So much for small town friendly). Needless to say I don't buy cars from this guy anymore. But back to my good dealer-- I would recommend Gene Evans to anyone in the Atlanta area for any of their Ford needs. They are a large volume Mustang dealer and carry a huge supply of Ford trucks including several Harley and Lightning trucks. Dang, you would think I was one of their salespeople. Ask for Patrick Greer or the sales manager Bob Winairczyk if you visit them. They stand behind what they promise.

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Courage - and shuffle the cards

DEWbird
05-05-2002, 08:20 PM
Salesman Vic Schwan and Hemborg Ford, Norco, California are definately in the GOOD DEALERS category. I began talking with Vic back in February after a post on this site from Clebus (Thanks Clebus, your post helped my dream become a reality). After my attepts to buy a car Vic had in Hemborg's showroom failed(shipping problems), Vic said I could order the car I wanted from them at list +$995, and they would do a courtesy delivery from Wixom to Dimension West Ford in my hometown of Ft. Wayne, IN. Then when the car arrived and Vic had me wire transfer payment, he said forget the $995 and he did the deal at the list price. Dealing with Vic Schwan is the most pleasant car buying experience I've had in my 33 years of buying new cars.

An additional good guy hat should go to Jim Robinson at Dimension Ford West. Jim worked with me for over a year to try and put me in a new TBird but couldn't get it done as all local dealers were asking $5-10,000 over list for their allocations. Nevertheless, when I needed to arrange for the courtesy dealer, Jim was extremely helpful in putting me in touch with all of the right people and making sure my car was handled properly upon arrival. So if anyone in Northeast Indiana is looking for a Ford/Lincoln/Mercury vehicle, Jim Robinson is your guy.

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2002 blue/blue/full blue
2001 Toyota Highlander
1990 Acura Integra

redbird
05-05-2002, 10:48 PM
c5hardtop,

I don't think the '03 order guide has been released yet, I've been watching for it. I'm sure the '03 options are set and dealers have been told what to expect. When I see something in writing, I'll let you know.

tbiddle
05-05-2002, 11:48 PM
I highly recommend Griffith Ford of Carroll, Iowa. Salesman Drew Beeber was excellent. Great people.

I would not, however, recommend Maibach Ford of Orrville, Ohio. The owner agreed to a bird at MSRP a year in advance of the opening of orders being placed. When Ford permitted orders to be placed, he wanted $ 10,000 over MSRP.

captjim
05-06-2002, 09:39 AM
How about a pair of good dealers!

captjim
05-06-2002, 09:44 AM
How about a pair of good dealers!

Gulf Coast Ford in Crystal River, Florida sold me #6 of 5 (first one in 2003) at just a little over MSRP. My salesman knew how badly I wanted one so he worked a deal with Heritage Ford in Wesley Chapel Florida to sell me the red/red 2002 they had for the same price I got in Crystal River.

Jim

tr cruiser
05-06-2002, 10:52 PM
I'm not sure if you'd call this a good dealer or just a hungry dealer, but according to their ad in today's Chronicle, Peninsula Ford became one of the first dealerships in the Bay Area to advertise 4 new T-birds for MSRP. They really are base price, so I'm guessing they must be deluxe w/o hardtop. Half a year ago their best deal was $10K over. Looks like the price bubble really has burst.

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raycunn
05-07-2002, 11:31 PM
Ordered my bird from Capitol Ford in San Jose, Ca in 1/01, for MSRP. Dealership sold to Sonic (a big national conglomerate) and the new folks agreed to honor my MSRP deal.
Dave Kreitner was excellent during the wait for my #3 of 36, and he and I exchange information weekly as he delivers the later cars. Dave Schmitz in service is also terrific, and has attended to my every need.
The dealership name changed to Friendly Ford the day after I picked up my car. It's on Capital Expressway in San Jose.

Ray